{"id":40,"date":"2006-05-11T14:39:38","date_gmt":"2006-05-11T19:39:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/?p=40"},"modified":"2006-05-11T14:40:00","modified_gmt":"2006-05-11T19:40:00","slug":"subtext-on-rails","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/?p=40","title":{"rendered":"Subtext on Rails"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My recent proposal to work on modeling capabilities fell flat, but elicited some good discussion of future directions for Subtext. Peter Marks wrote: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; I would rather see a complete re-examination of what lies underneath the World Wide Web. And then take the Subtext approach of banishing syntax, treating program as data, history, etc. &#8230; This would mean initially abandoning the UI demo and focusing more on the development of a system\/infrastructure that works with and within the Internet.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Macneil Shonle wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I wonder what &#8220;Subtext on Rails&#8221; would look like? <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more-->Some thoughts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>HTML\/XML is a tree. It would be useful to have a language based on trees&#8230;\n<\/li>\n<li>HTML\/XML encodes a tree into a text string in a way that makes it awkward for <strong>both <\/strong>humans and computers. What if we treat the syntax as merely a serialization format? Give the programmer a tree-based UI, and give the program a tree-based semantics?\n<\/li>\n<li>Templates suck. Every web programming language seems to be based on escaping code inside HTML. What a mess. You have to mentally juggle multiple syntaxes, multiple notions of context, multiple namespaces, multiple evaluation-times. What is needed is a uniform way to treat trees as both data and code at the same time&#8230;\n<\/li>\n<li>The primary method of constructing HTML is copy &#038; paste. Sometimes explicit inclusions are used. What is needed is a powerful and principled basis for copying and varying trees&#8230;\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t really thought this through &#8211; I am just throwing it out for discussion. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My recent proposal to work on modeling capabilities fell flat, but elicited some good discussion of future directions for Subtext. Peter Marks wrote: &#8230; I would rather see a complete re-examination of what lies underneath the World Wide Web. And then take the Subtext approach of banishing syntax, treating program as data, history, etc. &#8230; &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/?p=40\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Subtext on Rails&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pfEnU-E","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=40"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=40"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=40"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alarmingdevelopment.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=40"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}